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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 5, 2012 1:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

"Not many complete shows from before 1972 in the Vault..."

Did he really say that? What nonsense!

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Poster: segan63 Date: Oct 5, 2012 2:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

He said that there were a lot of partial or in cases most but not all of a show. He could see a Pigpen compilation box set coming out someday, but didn't seem soon.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 5, 2012 3:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

There have been hints of a Pigpen compilation for over a decade now...
In any case, many incomplete shows from the early era are begging for the compilation treatment (like, say, a winter-'68 set). But with their new insistence on releasing complete shows, that looks much more unlikely now than in the Dick's Picks days.

But my bafflement with what you wrote is because I just don't think it's true. They have PLENTY of complete shows before '72. (Yes, half of 1970 is gone, but still.) In fact, I think there is more '68/69 in the Vault than there is in circulation.
Now if he said, a lot of it they won't release due to quality issues (like Bear taping on cassettes rather than reels, or flips in bad places, etc), I can understand that. If he said '68-69 doesn't sell well & they've been doing lots of Keith shows cause they sell like hotcakes, I could understand that too.
But an early-era nut like me feels that, even if the number of complete shows was small, their quality & importance is high. They may have only five shows from 1967, but every one of them is worth releasing.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Oct 5, 2012 7:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

When they were doing the Road Trips, originally conceived as collections, they would give us fragments form shows that should have been released complete . Now they have Dave's Picks, conceived as a "whole shows " series, they can't give us shows that are fragmentary , or incomplete ...
I always though there was a use for both approaches . I I though that 93 RT was a good idea, the best of 2 nights, in an era where there is interesting stuff, but the shows are "uneven"( to say the least). And for musically more substantial eras, if fragments are all that exist, compile those . Any thing form the early period would be wroth it !
I am a big Keith era fan, so I'm happy, but it worries me that economic concerns might put a clamp, on early, or lesser thought of eras .

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Oct 5, 2012 8:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

as long as a jam or song is not cut// I'm all for the release of show fragments.

Dave's Friggin-Frag's Vol.One ;-)

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Poster: segan63 Date: Oct 5, 2012 4:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

Maybe Lemieux meant that there weren't many complete shows of releasable quality. I'm not sure. I, too, would love to see more 60's material get released, even if it doesn't fit the "complete show" mold...

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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 5, 2012 8:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

He dismissed '67-'68 pretty casually- 'not much there from then.' He did mention at some length the Avalon shows from Jan '69 but that once they were combed over for consideration where Live Dead was concerned alot was taped over. He said at one point 'you gotta understand tape stock was rare and expensive in those days.'
But the big point he made on that ers gets back to this 'whole show' thing. He said people have to understand sometimes a show is represented in the vault but a reel or two is missing.
Man whoever issued this whole show edict is carrying alot of weight in that organization currently. That much was extremely clear.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 5, 2012 12:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

"Not much there from then!" Well, then it looks like we won't be getting a '60s release anytime soon...

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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 5, 2012 9:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

He was quick to mention the May '69 release from Florida when the subject came up, which sounded to my ears like, "Geez we just did one from then!"